Communism, Socialism has failed…Democracy proved its nothing but a "term" to abuse ppl by those who have the power….
What do u think, about Islam as a system? Well, Islam has its own economic system, Political system, Social system and others…and, we can see from the world history that Islam has ruled half of the world for 1400 years…and, the history is all about glory, the state was pioneer in Science, technology, astrology, medical (Any one can check)…people says Islam is back dated, where as, Islam is only 1400 years old, and Democracy is 3000 years old…
in 1400 years of HIstory, no can can say any where the state oppressed…where, in 200 years rulling of British colonialism, ppl were only sucked. And, practing era of Democracy we saw how the powerful nations oppresed and oppressing nations like, Iraq, Afganishtan, Bosnia, Kashmir…
So what do u think, isnt Islam is the perfect system to rule man kind??
I.E – 1) Islamic system wasnt implimented in TALIBAAN Afgahnistan…nor its being practicizing in Iran or Saudi Arabia..whts the real Islamic state is, plz check the history…
2) Islamic state never oppressed non-muslims…I can give reference.
staying in any other state, dont we pay tax? In Islamic state, even Muslims r require to pay tax! Just think, in UK the local students give 2000 pound as university fees where an international student have to give 12000 pounds for the same course, can we say its as well oppressive?
@ Deltaxra…lol! u made me laugh! plz talk with reference! If I can give u reference that in Quran its being written that, "Never hurt a non-muslim" and in second important law providing book of Muslims, which is the activities of Prophet (PBUH), it has been said by the Prophet (PBUH) that, "Who ever hurt a non-Muslim I will stand agaisnt that ppl – even if he is a Muslim in the day of judgement"….so, where did u get that its in Quran to kill non-muslims??
@juvegirl, of the dhimmis …ya Allah! sister u r exactly to the point….i m really surprised to read ur answer..u just made the point!! u r exactly right!
Let me tell u a Prophet’s statement, where our beloved Prophet said, "who ever hurts a non-muslim, i will stand against that Muslim on the day of Judgement"….just think, how much respect we give to the non-muslims…throughout the 1400 years history of Islam, we respected non-muslims and they were safely in our land. U probably heard the incidence, where a JEW staying at Muslim land sent a mail to another Jew who were out side of the Muslim land saying, "We are very well here…plz u too migrate to this land of peace"
The Talibaan and other stupid leaders of So called Muslim lands are not the practicer of Islam….they have huge difference in their methood to the Prophet’s methood…and, sorry to say currenly there is no Islamic state..as Islamic state by defination is a state where 100% Quran will be implimented…
If you (or someone) could guarantee it wouldn’t fall into the hands of a group like the taliban, or like those in KSA or Iran (no offence to people of those countries, honestly) I, as a Catholic, would support it.
As it ought to be, it is at least no worse than the systems we have now, and perhaps somewhat better. I wouldn’t really want to pay tax to not be Muslim, but if that meant greater security and peace, I would pay. I mean, I pay taxes now…
Unfortunately, you cannot give those assurances. The existing activities of the ruling/dominant groups in KSA, Iran and recently in Afghanistan prove that there are powerful elements bent on a type of Islam that does not echo what the Prophet (pbuh) taught and what was generally practised or at least aspired to.
Why not work on implementing Islamic systems in Islamic countries first? Once the rest of the world can look to a country and see a fair and safe system of government in place, and working well, the people of the world might welcome such a change for their own countries.
I agree with you. But we have a big task of Interporeting Quran and Hadith to adopt it in current era. Ijtihad is the key for sucess. Stagantion is going to be a blunder.
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I am pretty happy with the system employed in the UK at the moment.
I know plenty of Muslims who would prefer to live under western laws rather than Sharia.
"2) Islamic state never oppressed non-muslims…I can give reference"
Then why did Jews and Christians have to pay tax while living under Islamic rule?
Would you like to taxed for living under non-Islamic rule.
Nora- Would you mind living under crusade rule?
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I couldnt agree more, jazaki Allah khair sister, no need to give a reference since it’s a reality,,
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The Quran tells its beleivers to kill all infidels if they can not be converted to Islam,
And that isn’t "Oppression"
What have you been smoking?
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yep you are right
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Agreed.
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If you (or someone) could guarantee it wouldn’t fall into the hands of a group like the taliban, or like those in KSA or Iran (no offence to people of those countries, honestly) I, as a Catholic, would support it.
As it ought to be, it is at least no worse than the systems we have now, and perhaps somewhat better. I wouldn’t really want to pay tax to not be Muslim, but if that meant greater security and peace, I would pay. I mean, I pay taxes now…
Unfortunately, you cannot give those assurances. The existing activities of the ruling/dominant groups in KSA, Iran and recently in Afghanistan prove that there are powerful elements bent on a type of Islam that does not echo what the Prophet (pbuh) taught and what was generally practised or at least aspired to.
Why not work on implementing Islamic systems in Islamic countries first? Once the rest of the world can look to a country and see a fair and safe system of government in place, and working well, the people of the world might welcome such a change for their own countries.
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so much turmoil!
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the taliban ruled afghanistan did the people love them and sharia law? the taliban took over rule in the swat valley ,look it up. they said they would kill any girl and her parents if they send a girl to school. did they not kill a teacher 10 days ago for wearing his pant legs below his ankles as required by sharia law. what you really need to do is learn sharia law and islam before you post. muslim countries are the most corrupt, poor and backward on the planet.
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Even western historians and political science professors have put high regard onto the social and political benefits that society could achieve based on the success of Prophet Muhammad Peace Be Upon Him. Islamic Community’s both thrived and flourished. As did their neighbors.
Nothing is idyllic. But The Prophets PBUH wisdom and fairness in how things should be could never have happened under any other circumstances than people wanted his message and today they still hunger for that message delivered to him by Allah s.w.t The best we can hope for are what we are lacking in a deep deficit of. Non corrupted Islamic political leaders. I don’t there are not many left to look up to anymore. So we can do our best as individuals, families, and communities to set that example for each other and ourselves and our kids. Islam delivered the world some of it’s best core principles amongst many things that have been borrowed or stolen from it so backward and poor isn’t an accurate description of all of the countries. Many things right down to the art hanging in the Vatican was plundered from Muslim crafters. In fact if you look closely enough you can see Bismillah in gold Arabic on the objects stolen and later painted over after the Crusades. Still visible and very there…go and have a look sometime. Getting rid of it would alter the artifact itself so there you have it! If you can’t afford a trip to Rome got to Discovery.com maybe they will rerun the episode. Money isn’t everything. And furthermore what idiot came up with the great idea of paying 19.95 percent interest on something that costs less than 19.95. That’s a clear indication of why the world is in debt everywhere that uses this ridiculous monetary system! If Allah s.w.t loved this so much which He did not then it stands to reason this faulted and corrupted system is eating itself up and exploding in our faces. Your failed and miserable tax codes are a joke compared to the sheer purity and simplicity in Zakat. I would assume even a non muslim wouldn’t mind paying his/her share of their taxes to live in a better sociey.
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Oh God no.
I’d prefer democracy and capitalism over Islam any day.
Keep religion in the mosques and churches and synagogues and out of the government, military, courts-of-law, and police departments.
Just because something is not perfect (democracy, capitalism, etc.) it doesn’t mean that it doesn’t work.
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I fully agree with you
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