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		<title>Comment on Do most Americans have too much arrogance to adopt any kind of foreign system or ideas? by The Patriot</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Patriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 07:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is how it looks!

I do not understand why so many Americans have fallen for lies about healthcare in the USA, abroad and also the planned reforms [1].  I mean, if the healthcare system in the USA is so good, why have no other nations taken it up?  Could it be due to the following facts?
FACT - the USA spends more on healthcare PER PERSON than any other nation on the planet [2].
FACT - the US has higher death rates for kids under five than western European countries with universal health coverage [3].
Or if the US healthcare system is run so well, why not run the fire service like the healthcare system?  [4]
Maybe that is because in the USA, insurance companies push up costs, buy politicians and refuse to pay claims that people pay for [5].  (Look up Wendell Potter on YouTube to hear more if the link below is too long.)
Obama wants to make insurance cheaper, stop insurance companies from refusing health coverage to those with pre-existing conditions, and make sure they pay out when they are meant to [6], a system similar to that which works in Taiwan [7].  He debated this before he was elected [8].
Is it right that a dead American four year old would have had a better chance of life if they were born in Canada, Cuba, Germany and so many other industrialised nations with universal healthcare?
If you think my arguments are wrong, e-mail me with proof.  But if you can not, let Obama try to help America.  If he fails, vote him out in 2012.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;[1] http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/subjects/health/
[2] http://allcountries.org/health/usa_health_care_2009_economist.html
[3] http://www.unicef.org/sowc08/docs/sowc08_table_U5MR.pdf
[4] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhpUG4apgrE
[5] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QwX_soZ1GI
[6] http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/08/01/health-reform-made-simple/
[7] http://www.annals.org/cgi/reprint/148/4/313.pdf
[8] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdTalCKyW-g</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is how it looks!</p>
<p>I do not understand why so many Americans have fallen for lies about healthcare in the USA, abroad and also the planned reforms [1].  I mean, if the healthcare system in the USA is so good, why have no other nations taken it up?  Could it be due to the following facts?<br />
FACT &#8211; the USA spends more on healthcare PER PERSON than any other nation on the planet [2].<br />
FACT &#8211; the US has higher death rates for kids under five than western European countries with universal health coverage [3].<br />
Or if the US healthcare system is run so well, why not run the fire service like the healthcare system?  [4]<br />
Maybe that is because in the USA, insurance companies push up costs, buy politicians and refuse to pay claims that people pay for [5].  (Look up Wendell Potter on YouTube to hear more if the link below is too long.)<br />
Obama wants to make insurance cheaper, stop insurance companies from refusing health coverage to those with pre-existing conditions, and make sure they pay out when they are meant to [6], a system similar to that which works in Taiwan [7].  He debated this before he was elected [8].<br />
Is it right that a dead American four year old would have had a better chance of life if they were born in Canada, Cuba, Germany and so many other industrialised nations with universal healthcare?<br />
If you think my arguments are wrong, e-mail me with proof.  But if you can not, let Obama try to help America.  If he fails, vote him out in 2012.<br /><b>References : </b><br />[1] <a href="http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/subjects/health/" rel="nofollow">http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/subjects/health/</a><br />
[2] <a href="http://allcountries.org/health/usa_health_care_2009_economist.html" rel="nofollow">http://allcountries.org/health/usa_health_care_2009_economist.html</a><br />
[3] <a href="http://www.unicef.org/sowc08/docs/sowc08_table_U5MR.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.unicef.org/sowc08/docs/sowc08_table_U5MR.pdf</a><br />
[4] <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhpUG4apgrE" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhpUG4apgrE</a><br />
[5] <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QwX_soZ1GI" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QwX_soZ1GI</a><br />
[6] <a href="http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/08/01/health-reform-made-simple/" rel="nofollow">http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/08/01/health-reform-made-simple/</a><br />
[7] <a href="http://www.annals.org/cgi/reprint/148/4/313.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.annals.org/cgi/reprint/148/4/313.pdf</a><br />
[8] <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdTalCKyW-g" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdTalCKyW-g</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Do most Americans have too much arrogance to adopt any kind of foreign system or ideas? by juandos</title>
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		<dc:creator>juandos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 06:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the sort of question asked by someone who is abysmally ignorant of basic economics, the Constitution, and has chronic lack of common sense...

There is a reason why the US had accomplished what it has and why the US is the foremost country on the planet to help out others in need...

Remember the 2004 tsunami?

Who was first on the scene to help?

The US Navy followed very closely by the Australian navy...

Look it up...

Consider this from the leftist VOA: Individual Americans responded to the horrific images of death and destruction by offering to help. Private American citizens have given more than one-billion-eight-hundred-million dollars in cash and in-kind donations to help tsunami victims. The U.S. government also offered immediate assistance, including military transports to bring in emergency relief supplies. Over time, official U.S. recovery assistance has grown to eight-hundred-forty million dollars... (http://www.voanews.com/uspolicy/archive/2006-12/2006-12-29-voa1.cfm?moddate=2006-12-29)

So why should we as a nation be failures like the other countries in the European Union for instance?

BTW someone want to ask the &#039;pseudo&#039; Patriot why he/she/it has so many less than credible, leftist drivel to support the inane idea of universal healthcare?

How come those that support it are willing to spend OTHER PEOPLE&#039;s money for this truly idiotic idea?&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the sort of question asked by someone who is abysmally ignorant of basic economics, the Constitution, and has chronic lack of common sense&#8230;</p>
<p>There is a reason why the US had accomplished what it has and why the US is the foremost country on the planet to help out others in need&#8230;</p>
<p>Remember the 2004 tsunami?</p>
<p>Who was first on the scene to help?</p>
<p>The US Navy followed very closely by the Australian navy&#8230;</p>
<p>Look it up&#8230;</p>
<p>Consider this from the leftist VOA: Individual Americans responded to the horrific images of death and destruction by offering to help. Private American citizens have given more than one-billion-eight-hundred-million dollars in cash and in-kind donations to help tsunami victims. The U.S. government also offered immediate assistance, including military transports to bring in emergency relief supplies. Over time, official U.S. recovery assistance has grown to eight-hundred-forty million dollars&#8230; (<a href="http://www.voanews.com/uspolicy/archive/2006-12/2006-12-29-voa1.cfm?moddate=2006-12-29" rel="nofollow">http://www.voanews.com/uspolicy/archive/2006-12/2006-12-29-voa1.cfm?moddate=2006-12-29</a>)</p>
<p>So why should we as a nation be failures like the other countries in the European Union for instance?</p>
<p>BTW someone want to ask the &#8216;pseudo&#8217; Patriot why he/she/it has so many less than credible, leftist drivel to support the inane idea of universal healthcare?</p>
<p>How come those that support it are willing to spend OTHER PEOPLE&#8217;s money for this truly idiotic idea?<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>Comment on Do most Americans have too much arrogance to adopt any kind of foreign system or ideas? by Libertarian is crushing ACORNs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Libertarian is crushing ACORNs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 05:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So far, I haven&#039;t seen one, but I assume that if a more efficient alternative that offered the same level of service/care existed in some Shangrila, everyone would be happy to accept it.

The best system I&#039;ve seen so far is in Florida.  The governor of Florida used the private insurance systems in a bid war and got insurance rates reduced from roughly $970/month to $174/month or less for Florida residents.  It cost the government nothing but some time and now Floridians have cheap, affordable health care insurance that can&#039;t be denied for pre-existing conditions.

Cover Florida is an amazing result of what government can do when they cut off all the bureaucratic nonsense.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;http://www.coverfloridahealthcare.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So far, I haven&#8217;t seen one, but I assume that if a more efficient alternative that offered the same level of service/care existed in some Shangrila, everyone would be happy to accept it.</p>
<p>The best system I&#8217;ve seen so far is in Florida.  The governor of Florida used the private insurance systems in a bid war and got insurance rates reduced from roughly $970/month to $174/month or less for Florida residents.  It cost the government nothing but some time and now Floridians have cheap, affordable health care insurance that can&#8217;t be denied for pre-existing conditions.</p>
<p>Cover Florida is an amazing result of what government can do when they cut off all the bureaucratic nonsense.<br /><b>References : </b><br /><a href="http://www.coverfloridahealthcare.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.coverfloridahealthcare.com/</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Do most Americans have too much arrogance to adopt any kind of foreign system or ideas? by RayHere</title>
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		<dc:creator>RayHere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 05:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;&#039;Prevents the U S from progressing forward&#039;&#039; Kind of like a homeless man giving Bill Gated investments tips&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221;Prevents the U S from progressing forward&#8221; Kind of like a homeless man giving Bill Gated investments tips<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>Comment on Do most Americans have too much arrogance to adopt any kind of foreign system or ideas? by Didier Drogba</title>
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		<dc:creator>Didier Drogba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 04:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Better&quot; is subjective.     It&#039;s a nationalized program in which some people pay for other people&#039;s stuff.   Subjectively, you as an individual might end up with better stuff than you have now.   But it&#039;s still wrong because it&#039;s forced, nationalized, and some people have to pay for other people.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Better&quot; is subjective.     It&#8217;s a nationalized program in which some people pay for other people&#8217;s stuff.   Subjectively, you as an individual might end up with better stuff than you have now.   But it&#8217;s still wrong because it&#8217;s forced, nationalized, and some people have to pay for other people.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>Comment on Do most Americans have too much arrogance to adopt any kind of foreign system or ideas? by gerafalop</title>
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		<dc:creator>gerafalop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 04:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Americans would be willing to adopt a foreign system if it was in fact better.  If a foreign government actually developed a government health system that provided better care to all citizens, I think Americans would accepted it.  

I do not believe however, that such a system does or could exist.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Americans would be willing to adopt a foreign system if it was in fact better.  If a foreign government actually developed a government health system that provided better care to all citizens, I think Americans would accepted it.  </p>
<p>I do not believe however, that such a system does or could exist.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>Comment on &quot;This perfect government, and its perfect leader&quot; Do you agree with my beliefs? by Kevin M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 04:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My God man!  Have not see The Terminator?  Have you not seen Collossus, the Forbin Project?  No good can come from turning our lives over to a computer.

Never mind that this computer is programmed by people, and their goals may not agree with mine.  You may wish to become a slave to a computer, but not me.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My God man!  Have not see The Terminator?  Have you not seen Collossus, the Forbin Project?  No good can come from turning our lives over to a computer.</p>
<p>Never mind that this computer is programmed by people, and their goals may not agree with mine.  You may wish to become a slave to a computer, but not me.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>Comment on &quot;This perfect government, and its perfect leader&quot; Do you agree with my beliefs? by eg_ansel</title>
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		<dc:creator>eg_ansel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 04:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t this already in effect?&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t this already in effect?<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>Comment on Do most Americans have too much arrogance to adopt any kind of foreign system or ideas? by Water Over Gold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Water Over Gold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 03:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, Americans know their govt. is VERY CORRUPT.

Why the hell would you put a VERY CORRUPT govt. in charge of healthcare?? You wouldn&#039;t.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, Americans know their govt. is VERY CORRUPT.</p>
<p>Why the hell would you put a VERY CORRUPT govt. in charge of healthcare?? You wouldn&#8217;t.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>Comment on &quot;This perfect government, and its perfect leader&quot; Do you agree with my beliefs? by draciron</title>
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		<dc:creator>draciron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 03:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your system has the same core flaw that kills Communism (Don&#039;t mix that up with true Socialism. Your speaking of Marxist Socialism which is really Communism with a prettier name). 

That flaw is that any system that distrust&#039;s it&#039;s own people is doomed to oppress those people. That is why Democracy flourished. While Democratic nations still held the benifit of the people and trusted their own people, those people&#039;s flourished.  While Democracy has it&#039;s flaws, it&#039;s core works. That is the trust of the people.  

Leveling people is to distrust people. To make all equal is to tear down people to the lowest common denominator. That itself is more evil to the human soul than anything else that can be done to a person. To box a person in. To limit what they can do is poison to the human soul. The distrust is also poison to the human spirit. That is why Communism fails. It is inheriently an oppressive system. Your system would fail the same way. It would oppress people. Make them less than human. For an example think about enforcement of the letter of the law vrs the spirit of a law. No matter how good the law is, blind enforcement creates as much or more injustice than the law was written to prevent. A machine whether it be a human machine such as Marxist style Socialism or literally a mechanical device cannot interpet the spirit of a law. It can only enforce the letter of it. As such the law becomes meaningless. As a wise man once said &quot;the only true law is one that leads to freedom.&quot; Enforcement of the letter of any law leads away from freedom and becomes an invalid law. A tool of oppression. A manipulation of the human spirit.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your system has the same core flaw that kills Communism (Don&#8217;t mix that up with true Socialism. Your speaking of Marxist Socialism which is really Communism with a prettier name). </p>
<p>That flaw is that any system that distrust&#8217;s it&#8217;s own people is doomed to oppress those people. That is why Democracy flourished. While Democratic nations still held the benifit of the people and trusted their own people, those people&#8217;s flourished.  While Democracy has it&#8217;s flaws, it&#8217;s core works. That is the trust of the people.  </p>
<p>Leveling people is to distrust people. To make all equal is to tear down people to the lowest common denominator. That itself is more evil to the human soul than anything else that can be done to a person. To box a person in. To limit what they can do is poison to the human soul. The distrust is also poison to the human spirit. That is why Communism fails. It is inheriently an oppressive system. Your system would fail the same way. It would oppress people. Make them less than human. For an example think about enforcement of the letter of the law vrs the spirit of a law. No matter how good the law is, blind enforcement creates as much or more injustice than the law was written to prevent. A machine whether it be a human machine such as Marxist style Socialism or literally a mechanical device cannot interpet the spirit of a law. It can only enforce the letter of it. As such the law becomes meaningless. As a wise man once said &quot;the only true law is one that leads to freedom.&quot; Enforcement of the letter of any law leads away from freedom and becomes an invalid law. A tool of oppression. A manipulation of the human spirit.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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